From Cupid to Chaos: Keeping Love Alive in a Divided World
Thu Feb 05 2026
Episode Summary
Penn and Moses kick things off (from separate locations) with Valentine’s Day around the corner—framing it less as a “couples-only holiday” and more as an excuse to show kindness to anyone (including handing out valentines to strangers). From there, the conversation turns serious: how to stay connected with people you love when you’re on opposite sides of politics and religion.
Penn shares how painful it felt to hear her sister propose a new boundary—no politics, no religion—after a lifetime of being able to talk about anything. Moses offers a counterbalance: focus on in-person conversations, keep humor as a pressure-release valve (“street humor”), and remember that people often agree on the problem even if they disagree on the solution. They reflect on how social-media hostility amplifies division, and Penn points to a Grammys moment (Bad Bunny’s “approach with love instead of hatred” idea) as a north star for how to engage.
They wrap with lighter updates: they’re heading to Playa del Carmen soon, they’ll be recording the next “just the two of us” episode from Mexico, and they shout out Evan Starnes and Blind Level Tech for making a real impact. They invite listeners to send feedback and join them on social media—and promise to post an old photo of Moses dressed as Cupid.
Contact Info
Listener feedback: feedback@aftersight.org (as stated in the episode)Aftersight (main line): (720) 712-8856Social: Search “The Blind Chick” on Facebook (Penn also mentions Instagram and TikTok)Show Credits
Show: The Blind Chick (An Aftersight Original Podcast)Hosts: Penn Street and Moses StreetProducer: Jonathan Price (Aftersight)Chapter Markers
00:05 — Intro: Penn & Moses are back00:26 — Recording separately today00:45 — Valentine’s Day: love beyond romance01:33 — Grade-school valentines (and doing it again as adults)02:31 — “Real life” topics brought to listeners02:58 — Navigating political divides with people you love04:23 — Penn took a class on talking politics across disagreement05:03 — Moses on disagreement with his brother (Marco Polo)07:30 — “Street humor” as a safe-word for joking09:59 — Penn’s sister: deep bond, now opposite political aisle11:01 — The heartbreak: “no religion, no politics”13:18 — Why in-person political conversations work better15:35 — Penn: why this moment feels more harmful than “just policy differences”15:56 — Grammys moment: approaching issues with love vs hatred18:10 — Old rule: don’t talk religion/politics; and why it “worked”20:40 — Listener prompt: how do you keep relationships intact?23:49 — Mexico countdown begins25:12 — Story: walking away from politics in Mexico due to danger/stress27:22 — Playa del Carmen meetup: Scott Garrison connects them with his parents28:43 — Shoutout: Scott guiding blind hikers up a volcano in Guatemala30:57 — Penn’s stomach health issues; excited for Mexico food31:13 — Playa del Carmen then vs now36:31 — Next “just us” episode will be recorded from Mexico36:45 — Shoutout: Blind Level Tech and Evan Starnes39:10 — Kindness + feedback request39:36 — Social media plugs + Cupid photo promise40:16 — Sign-off (and joking about an “X rating” Cupid depiction)
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Episode Summary Penn and Moses kick things off (from separate locations) with Valentine’s Day around the corner—framing it less as a “couples-only holiday” and more as an excuse to show kindness to anyone (including handing out valentines to strangers). From there, the conversation turns serious: how to stay connected with people you love when you’re on opposite sides of politics and religion. Penn shares how painful it felt to hear her sister propose a new boundary—no politics, no religion—after a lifetime of being able to talk about anything. Moses offers a counterbalance: focus on in-person conversations, keep humor as a pressure-release valve (“street humor”), and remember that people often agree on the problem even if they disagree on the solution. They reflect on how social-media hostility amplifies division, and Penn points to a Grammys moment (Bad Bunny’s “approach with love instead of hatred” idea) as a north star for how to engage. They wrap with lighter updates: they’re heading to Playa del Carmen soon, they’ll be recording the next “just the two of us” episode from Mexico, and they shout out Evan Starnes and Blind Level Tech for making a real impact. They invite listeners to send feedback and join them on social media—and promise to post an old photo of Moses dressed as Cupid. Contact Info Listener feedback: feedback@aftersight.org (as stated in the episode)Aftersight (main line): (720) 712-8856Social: Search “The Blind Chick” on Facebook (Penn also mentions Instagram and TikTok)Show Credits Show: The Blind Chick (An Aftersight Original Podcast)Hosts: Penn Street and Moses StreetProducer: Jonathan Price (Aftersight)Chapter Markers 00:05 — Intro: Penn & Moses are back00:26 — Recording separately today00:45 — Valentine’s Day: love beyond romance01:33 — Grade-school valentines (and doing it again as adults)02:31 — “Real life” topics brought to listeners02:58 — Navigating political divides with people you love04:23 — Penn took a class on talking politics across disagreement05:03 — Moses on disagreement with his brother (Marco Polo)07:30 — “Street humor” as a safe-word for joking09:59 — Penn’s sister: deep bond, now opposite political aisle11:01 — The heartbreak: “no religion, no politics”13:18 — Why in-person political conversations work better15:35 — Penn: why this moment feels more harmful than “just policy differences”15:56 — Grammys moment: approaching issues with love vs hatred18:10 — Old rule: don’t talk religion/politics; and why it “worked”20:40 — Listener prompt: how do you keep relationships intact?23:49 — Mexico countdown begins25:12 — Story: walking away from politics in Mexico due to danger/stress27:22 — Playa del Carmen meetup: Scott Garrison connects them with his parents28:43 — Shoutout: Scott guiding blind hikers up a volcano in Guatemala30:57 — Penn’s stomach health issues; excited for Mexico food31:13 — Playa del Carmen then vs now36:31 — Next “just us” episode will be recorded from Mexico36:45 — Shoutout: Blind Level Tech and Evan Starnes39:10 — Kindness + feedback request39:36 — Social media plugs + Cupid photo promise40:16 — Sign-off (and joking about an “X rating” Cupid depiction)