5.6 Faith During Conflict with Fatima Njoku and Dana Robb
Thu Jan 29 2026
Dana is joined by Fatima as they discuss the violence that has been plaguing Nigeria for over 20 years. As Dana said, “Our purpose today is not to sensationalize the suffering or assign political blame or leave us feeling overwhelmed, but we want to listen, understand, and know how as an interfaith community, we can come together and support the Nigerians in this suffering.”
“We just have to be as close to God as we can.” - Fatima Njoku
“There’s no limit to what is possible, and so every day we just keep praying that we are able to stay faithful.” - Fatima Njoku
“There has to be a real awakening of patriotism, of human rights, values of respect and dignity of life, of human life, that people should be able to see one another as humans and not as competitors or rivals or any enemies because we’re not.” - Fatia Njoku
“So there's hope. It's just for us to reinforce the right values. The bad people are not as many as good people. It's just because what bad people are doing is so loud that it makes it look like the world is so evil. No, there are a lot of good people, it’s just that they have refused to do anything good or they've been quiet. But if we pray for one another, if we help each other, do inter-religious workshops where we help to see that we have similarities, give each other hope and a reason to believe in one another.
I think there's a lot of hope.” - Fatima Njoku
“If every good person decides to stand up and, and to do something good and to be led by God, to know how to fill in that space. Then so much good will happen.” - Dana Robb
“I love the catchphrase… ‘All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing.’ So if you want to be a force for good in the world, don’t do nothing. Do something.” - Fatima Njoku
“That's perfect. Yep, exactly. Do something. And each of us has that capability to do something good in our homes, our communities, and it will branch out and affect the world.” - Dana Robb
Fatima Njoku is a lawyer working in Nigeria and currently a doctorate candidate at the University of Jos. She has been a human rights advocate for over 11 years, in the course of her advocacy, she has been to the United Nations headquarters in New York and Geneva, she had meetings at Capitol Hill, House of Lords, Swiss Press Club and the like. She has been serving her community through Big Ocean Women in Nigeria where more than 50 women meet regularly for encouragement around the importance of faith, family, and motherhood. This group also carries out community development projects that have touched many lives.
Whenever presented with the opportunity for adventure, Dana Robb is all in. Currently, this includes riding the local mountain biking trails with her husband, canyoneering, and climbing the hills of southern Utah. She loves to learn and explore with her six kids. She is drawn to the opportunities being involved with Big Ocean Women provides. Dana loves connecting to a global sisterhood where women’s issues are being addressed through reframing and an abundance mindset.
This podcast is available with subtitles on Youtube.
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Dana is joined by Fatima as they discuss the violence that has been plaguing Nigeria for over 20 years. As Dana said, “Our purpose today is not to sensationalize the suffering or assign political blame or leave us feeling overwhelmed, but we want to listen, understand, and know how as an interfaith community, we can come together and support the Nigerians in this suffering.” “We just have to be as close to God as we can.” - Fatima Njoku “There’s no limit to what is possible, and so every day we just keep praying that we are able to stay faithful.” - Fatima Njoku “There has to be a real awakening of patriotism, of human rights, values of respect and dignity of life, of human life, that people should be able to see one another as humans and not as competitors or rivals or any enemies because we’re not.” - Fatia Njoku “So there's hope. It's just for us to reinforce the right values. The bad people are not as many as good people. It's just because what bad people are doing is so loud that it makes it look like the world is so evil. No, there are a lot of good people, it’s just that they have refused to do anything good or they've been quiet. But if we pray for one another, if we help each other, do inter-religious workshops where we help to see that we have similarities, give each other hope and a reason to believe in one another. I think there's a lot of hope.” - Fatima Njoku “If every good person decides to stand up and, and to do something good and to be led by God, to know how to fill in that space. Then so much good will happen.” - Dana Robb “I love the catchphrase… ‘All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing.’ So if you want to be a force for good in the world, don’t do nothing. Do something.” - Fatima Njoku “That's perfect. Yep, exactly. Do something. And each of us has that capability to do something good in our homes, our communities, and it will branch out and affect the world.” - Dana Robb Fatima Njoku is a lawyer working in Nigeria and currently a doctorate candidate at the University of Jos. She has been a human rights advocate for over 11 years, in the course of her advocacy, she has been to the United Nations headquarters in New York and Geneva, she had meetings at Capitol Hill, House of Lords, Swiss Press Club and the like. She has been serving her community through Big Ocean Women in Nigeria where more than 50 women meet regularly for encouragement around the importance of faith, family, and motherhood. This group also carries out community development projects that have touched many lives. Whenever presented with the opportunity for adventure, Dana Robb is all in. Currently, this includes riding the local mountain biking trails with her husband, canyoneering, and climbing the hills of southern Utah. She loves to learn and explore with her six kids. She is drawn to the opportunities being involved with Big Ocean Women provides. Dana loves connecting to a global sisterhood where women’s issues are being addressed through reframing and an abundance mindset. This podcast is available with subtitles on Youtube.