Creating long-term value through disciplined, outcome first leadership.
Wed Feb 04 2026
Growing companies don’t fail because leaders lack vision. They struggle when growth outpaces clarity, alignment, and execution. In this episode of The Business of What’s Next, Matthew Shipp sits down with Rebecca Kay, founder of PIC Operating Group, to explore why many organizations stall after early success—and how outcome-first leadership creates long-term enterprise value.
Rebecca shares how her experience across multiple industries shaped a disciplined approach to value creation. Instead of starting with tools, roles, or frameworks, she helps leaders define the desired future state first, assess reality honestly, and prioritize the few initiatives that truly move the business forward. The result is sustainable growth, healthier teams, and companies built to last.
In this episode, we dive into:
✅ Why starting with outcomes beats solution-first thinking
✅ How misalignment and lack of clarity quietly limit growth
✅ The importance of fixing foundations before scaling
✅ Common leadership blind spots in founder-led companies
✅ How reducing founder dependency increases enterprise value
✅ Building systems that support people, not slow them down
Rebecca Kay
PIC Operating Group
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Growing companies don’t fail because leaders lack vision. They struggle when growth outpaces clarity, alignment, and execution. In this episode of The Business of What’s Next, Matthew Shipp sits down with Rebecca Kay, founder of PIC Operating Group, to explore why many organizations stall after early success—and how outcome-first leadership creates long-term enterprise value. Rebecca shares how her experience across multiple industries shaped a disciplined approach to value creation. Instead of starting with tools, roles, or frameworks, she helps leaders define the desired future state first, assess reality honestly, and prioritize the few initiatives that truly move the business forward. The result is sustainable growth, healthier teams, and companies built to last. In this episode, we dive into: ✅ Why starting with outcomes beats solution-first thinking ✅ How misalignment and lack of clarity quietly limit growth ✅ The importance of fixing foundations before scaling ✅ Common leadership blind spots in founder-led companies ✅ How reducing founder dependency increases enterprise value ✅ Building systems that support people, not slow them down Rebecca Kay PIC Operating Group Connect with the HostMatthew Shipp Be a Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewshipp/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matthewjshipp/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/emberisolutions Emberi Solutions: https://emberisolutions.com/ Buy me a coffee ☕ https://buymeacoffee.com/mattshipp