#43 - Tomas is being Interviewed by Portia Tung
Wed Nov 12 2025
In this special episode of the Leading Complexity Podcast, things take an unexpected turn — The host Tomas hands over the interviewing part to Portia Tong, who interviews him instead.Together, they explore the story behind the Leading Complexity Program — how a simple idea about creating a new kind of organizational “operating system” grew into a global learning movement.
Tomas shares how conversations with thought leaders like David Marquet, Stephen Bungay, and Dave Snowden sparked the first event, and how it has evolved into a space for deep learning, inspiration, and authentic connection.
You’ll hear reflections on:
The origins and purpose of the Leading Complexity programWhy sharing knowledge freely matters more than everWhat participants gain from learning directly from the world’s top thinkersThis episode is full of warmth, curiosity, and honest reflection —a rare behind-the-scenes look at what drives the people behind the Leading Complexity program.
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In this special episode of the Leading Complexity Podcast, things take an unexpected turn — The host Tomas hands over the interviewing part to Portia Tong, who interviews him instead.Together, they explore the story behind the Leading Complexity Program — how a simple idea about creating a new kind of organizational “operating system” grew into a global learning movement. Tomas shares how conversations with thought leaders like David Marquet, Stephen Bungay, and Dave Snowden sparked the first event, and how it has evolved into a space for deep learning, inspiration, and authentic connection. You’ll hear reflections on: The origins and purpose of the Leading Complexity programWhy sharing knowledge freely matters more than everWhat participants gain from learning directly from the world’s top thinkersThis episode is full of warmth, curiosity, and honest reflection —a rare behind-the-scenes look at what drives the people behind the Leading Complexity program.