Tom Petty's "Full Moon Fever" & The Future of Work with Larry Port
Thu Feb 05 2026
Jared Correia welcomes a true legal tech legend for a record-breaking three-segment appearance.
First, Jared and Larry Port (founder of Rocket Matter) crack open a new entry in the "Perfect Album" series: Tom Petty's Full Moon Fever (1989). They debate the merits of the album's solo status, the genius of Jeff Lynne's production, and whether "Free Fallin'" is actually a good song or just California propaganda.
Then, in the main interview, Larry discusses life after his successful exit from Rocket Matter. He reveals his new venture, WaySpark, a career coaching platform designed to help young people navigate a volatile labor market shaped by AI, the "silver wave" of retirements, and the decline of white-collar hiring. Larry explains why interpersonal skills are the new currency and why he advocates for the "Family Dinner Test" when choosing a career path.
Finally, stick around for the Counter Program: "Hard Work." Jared tests Larry's career coaching expertise with a quiz on bizarre historical and futuristic jobs. Is a "Quantum Janitor" a real thing? What about a Victorian "Pure Finder" who collects dog feces? Tune in to find out!
Check out Larry's podcast Dream Job Cafe.Subscribe to our show on YouTube.Check out this week's Spotify playlist here.
Thanks to those supporting this episode:
Assembly Neos. Visit assemblysoftware.com to learn more and schedule your consultation today.Captain Compliance. Visit captaincompliance.com to easily manage your company's privacy compliance.Attorney at Work. Head to Attorney at Work for your one really good idea each day. Check out their new podcast Attorney at Work Today on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.Subscribe to For the Innocent on your favorite podcasting app.
(00:00) - Intro & The "Perfect Album" Segment
(02:08) - Is Billy Joel's The Stranger His Best Album?
(06:00) - Tom Petty's Full Moon Fever: A Solo Masterpiece?
(08:30) - "Free Fallin'" and California Envy
(14:32) - The "Attention CD Listeners" Easter Egg
(19:22) - Larry's Perfect Album: Smashing Pumpkins & U2
(24:58) - Interview Start: Larry Port (WaySpark)
(26:49) - The Emotional Reality of Exiting Rocket Matter
(29:19) - The Art of Napping: Strategies for Post-Exit Recovery
(32:55) - Volunteering: Big Brothers Big Sisters & Platelet Donation
(37:03) - Pickleball Strategy: The 6'3" Advantage
(40:45) - Introducing WaySpark: Career Coaching for the AI Era
(44:46) - The "Silver Wave" & The Shortage of Skilled Labor
(47:46) - The Internship Panic & College Admissions Stress
(53:56) - Why Soft Skills & Relationships Are Future-Proof
(59:19) - The "Dream Job Cafe" Podcast & The Family Dinner Test
(01:05:36) - Counter Program: "Hard Work" (Real vs. Fake Jobs)
(01:06:07) - Chronological Architect & Quantum Janitor
(01:09:03) - Dog Food Taster: Would You Eat It?
(01:11:06) - Resurrectionist (Body Snatcher)
(01:12:36) - Pure Finder: The Victorian Dog Poop Collector
(01:14:37) - Conclusion & Outro
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Jared Correia welcomes a true legal tech legend for a record-breaking three-segment appearance. First, Jared and Larry Port (founder of Rocket Matter) crack open a new entry in the "Perfect Album" series: Tom Petty's Full Moon Fever (1989). They debate the merits of the album's solo status, the genius of Jeff Lynne's production, and whether "Free Fallin'" is actually a good song or just California propaganda. Then, in the main interview, Larry discusses life after his successful exit from Rocket Matter. He reveals his new venture, WaySpark, a career coaching platform designed to help young people navigate a volatile labor market shaped by AI, the "silver wave" of retirements, and the decline of white-collar hiring. Larry explains why interpersonal skills are the new currency and why he advocates for the "Family Dinner Test" when choosing a career path. Finally, stick around for the Counter Program: "Hard Work." Jared tests Larry's career coaching expertise with a quiz on bizarre historical and futuristic jobs. Is a "Quantum Janitor" a real thing? What about a Victorian "Pure Finder" who collects dog feces? Tune in to find out! Check out Larry's podcast Dream Job Cafe.Subscribe to our show on YouTube.Check out this week's Spotify playlist here. Thanks to those supporting this episode: Assembly Neos. Visit assemblysoftware.com to learn more and schedule your consultation today.Captain Compliance. Visit captaincompliance.com to easily manage your company's privacy compliance.Attorney at Work. Head to Attorney at Work for your one really good idea each day. Check out their new podcast Attorney at Work Today on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.Subscribe to For the Innocent on your favorite podcasting app. (00:00) - Intro & The "Perfect Album" Segment (02:08) - Is Billy Joel's The Stranger His Best Album? (06:00) - Tom Petty's Full Moon Fever: A Solo Masterpiece? (08:30) - "Free Fallin'" and California Envy (14:32) - The "Attention CD Listeners" Easter Egg (19:22) - Larry's Perfect Album: Smashing Pumpkins & U2 (24:58) - Interview Start: Larry Port (WaySpark) (26:49) - The Emotional Reality of Exiting Rocket Matter (29:19) - The Art of Napping: Strategies for Post-Exit Recovery (32:55) - Volunteering: Big Brothers Big Sisters & Platelet Donation (37:03) - Pickleball Strategy: The 6'3" Advantage (40:45) - Introducing WaySpark: Career Coaching for the AI Era (44:46) - The "Silver Wave" & The Shortage of Skilled Labor (47:46) - The Internship Panic & College Admissions Stress (53:56) - Why Soft Skills & Relationships Are Future-Proof (59:19) - The "Dream Job Cafe" Podcast & The Family Dinner Test (01:05:36) - Counter Program: "Hard Work" (Real vs. Fake Jobs) (01:06:07) - Chronological Architect & Quantum Janitor (01:09:03) - Dog Food Taster: Would You Eat It? (01:11:06) - Resurrectionist (Body Snatcher) (01:12:36) - Pure Finder: The Victorian Dog Poop Collector (01:14:37) - Conclusion & Outro Click here to view the episode transcript.