Fatherhood, Divorce & Growth: The Truth Men Don’t Talk About | Ep 107 with Pat Doyle
Tue Jan 06 2026
In this episode of Operation Be, I sit down with Pat Doyle for an honest, grounded conversation about growth, fatherhood, and what it really means to show up as a man today. Pat’s journey—from professional baseball to mortgage lending, podcasting, and parenting—has been shaped by real-life experiences that forced him to slow down, reflect, and evolve.
We talk openly about mental health, emotional intelligence, and the responsibility that comes with being a present father and a self-aware leader. Pat shares how navigating divorce changed the way he approaches parenting, personal accountability, and his own inner work—and why choosing growth over ego has mattered more than anything.
This episode is about aligning purpose with practice, learning from life instead of running from it, and understanding that clarity doesn’t come from having all the answers—it comes from being willing to look inward.
Whether you’re a parent, a professional, or someone committed to doing the work to live with more intention, this conversation offers perspective, honesty, and a reminder that growth is always available when you choose it.
🎧Check it out today!
01:53 The Zach and Pat Show
03:21 Fatherhood and Personal Growth
06:00 Navigating Divorce and Co-Parenting
08:58 Relationships and Emotional Intelligence
20:44 The Importance of Vulnerability
28:22 Using Social Media for Business and Personal Growth
31:30 The Identity Crisis for Men
32:06 Comfort in Solitude
32:50 Promoting Positive Masculinity
34:11 The Impact of Toxic Labels
35:32 The Importance of Listening
37:02 Building Community and Values
44:20 Rapid Fire Questions
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In this episode of Operation Be, I sit down with Pat Doyle for an honest, grounded conversation about growth, fatherhood, and what it really means to show up as a man today. Pat’s journey—from professional baseball to mortgage lending, podcasting, and parenting—has been shaped by real-life experiences that forced him to slow down, reflect, and evolve. We talk openly about mental health, emotional intelligence, and the responsibility that comes with being a present father and a self-aware leader. Pat shares how navigating divorce changed the way he approaches parenting, personal accountability, and his own inner work—and why choosing growth over ego has mattered more than anything. This episode is about aligning purpose with practice, learning from life instead of running from it, and understanding that clarity doesn’t come from having all the answers—it comes from being willing to look inward. Whether you’re a parent, a professional, or someone committed to doing the work to live with more intention, this conversation offers perspective, honesty, and a reminder that growth is always available when you choose it. 🎧Check it out today! 01:53 The Zach and Pat Show 03:21 Fatherhood and Personal Growth 06:00 Navigating Divorce and Co-Parenting 08:58 Relationships and Emotional Intelligence 20:44 The Importance of Vulnerability 28:22 Using Social Media for Business and Personal Growth 31:30 The Identity Crisis for Men 32:06 Comfort in Solitude 32:50 Promoting Positive Masculinity 34:11 The Impact of Toxic Labels 35:32 The Importance of Listening 37:02 Building Community and Values 44:20 Rapid Fire Questions Connect with Pat: https://www.youtube.com/@TheZachandPatShow https://www.instagram.com/stl_mortgagenerd/ https://www.instagram.com/thezachandpatshow/ Please like, comment, subscribe, and share this episode and tag us with @jamie.thurber on Instagram or Jamie Thurber on Facebook. #OperationBe Want to connect with me on social media? www.instagram.com/jamie.thurber www.facebook.com/jamiethurber.biz www.jamiethurber.com https://www.youtube.com/@JamieThurber If you’re interested in getting the exclusive content I put out on the newsletter, sign up here: https://jamiethurber.com/newsletter Join my community and let’s take this conversation even deeper! Operation Be: The Podcast is where I teach personalized lessons on intentional living & creating a lifestyle by design. https://operationbe.com