385: Polycrisis, Collapse, Rebirth: Is Regenerative Economics Inevitable? —w/ Eugene Kirpichov, Work on Climate
Fri Feb 06 2026
Are we going to figure out how to get along on a highly stressed planet? Or are we unable to break the patterns that have gotten us here in the first place? Are we too hard-nosed or too woo? A secret third thing?!
Today's show features Eugene Kirpichov, founder of Work on Climate, a very popular climate community built to help people transition into climate work. But the longer Eugene stared at the nested set of problems humanity is facing, it no longer seemed like a simple issue of employment and greenhouse gases. In fact, it's kind of everything.
Daniel Schmachtenberger's work on risk and game theory led Eugene to regenerative economics and an attempt to create a world where economic activity gives more than it takes, and where we aren't constantly lurching from one crisis to the next.
This Episode's Sponsor
Philip Lee LLP: legal resources for carbon removal buyers and suppliers
Listen to the RCC episode with Ryan Covington from Philip Lee LLP
Rainbow: a developer-centric carbon removal registry
"Why carbon markets need field engineers, not just scientists" on Rainbow
"What scientists actually do in carbon removal" on rosskenyon.com
Resources
Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change
Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack
Eugene's LinkedIn post which inspired the show
Daniel Schmachtenberger
Work on Climate
I'll add more links soon.
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Are we going to figure out how to get along on a highly stressed planet? Or are we unable to break the patterns that have gotten us here in the first place? Are we too hard-nosed or too woo? A secret third thing?! Today's show features Eugene Kirpichov, founder of Work on Climate, a very popular climate community built to help people transition into climate work. But the longer Eugene stared at the nested set of problems humanity is facing, it no longer seemed like a simple issue of employment and greenhouse gases. In fact, it's kind of everything. Daniel Schmachtenberger's work on risk and game theory led Eugene to regenerative economics and an attempt to create a world where economic activity gives more than it takes, and where we aren't constantly lurching from one crisis to the next. This Episode's Sponsor Philip Lee LLP: legal resources for carbon removal buyers and suppliers Listen to the RCC episode with Ryan Covington from Philip Lee LLP Rainbow: a developer-centric carbon removal registry "Why carbon markets need field engineers, not just scientists" on Rainbow "What scientists actually do in carbon removal" on rosskenyon.com Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack Eugene's LinkedIn post which inspired the show Daniel Schmachtenberger Work on Climate I'll add more links soon.