What if AI was Cooperative instead? w/ Tan Zhi Xuan
Thu Feb 05 2026
I spoke to Tan Zhi Xuan, Assistant Professor at the National University of Singapore's Department of Computer Science and founder of the Cooperative Intelligence and Systems Lab, a research group confronting the gap between the rationalist AI alignment discourse focused on superintelligence and what is actually happening.
I had her on to talk about her work on cooperative AI (designing AI systems and institutions that promote beneficial cooperation among AI-empowered actors rather than conflict), her critique of techno-solutionist AI alignment approaches that ignore class interests and political economy, and how blockchain technologies might enable decentralized governance for a future of specialized AI agents. We also talk about the approach that Senator Bernie Sanders has taken recently in his critiques of AI companies.
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I spoke to Tan Zhi Xuan, Assistant Professor at the National University of Singapore's Department of Computer Science and founder of the Cooperative Intelligence and Systems Lab, a research group confronting the gap between the rationalist AI alignment discourse focused on superintelligence and what is actually happening. I had her on to talk about her work on cooperative AI (designing AI systems and institutions that promote beneficial cooperation among AI-empowered actors rather than conflict), her critique of techno-solutionist AI alignment approaches that ignore class interests and political economy, and how blockchain technologies might enable decentralized governance for a future of specialized AI agents. We also talk about the approach that Senator Bernie Sanders has taken recently in his critiques of AI companies. This episode is sponsored by NYM, the world's most private VPN. Unlike traditional VPNs, Nym uses a decentralized mixnet to scramble your internet data — hiding who you're talking to, when, and how often. You can switch between full mixnet mode for maximum anonymity, or a faster VPN mode for everyday use. Use the code blockchainsocialist when signing up and get an extra month! If you liked the podcast be sure to give it a review on your preferred podcast platform. If you find content like this important consider donating to my Patreon starting at just $3 per month. It takes quite a lot of my time and resources so any amount helps. Follow me on Twitter (@TBSocialist) or Mastodon (@theblockchainsocialist@social.coop) and join the r/CryptoLeftists subreddit. Support the show ICYMI I've written a book about, no surprise, blockchains through a left political framework! The title is Blockchain Radicals: How Capitalism Ruined Crypto and How to Fix It and is being published through Repeater Books, the publishing house started by Mark Fisher who’s work influenced me a lot in my thinking. The book is officially published and you use this linktree to find where you can purchase the book based on your region / country.