The One Number That Drives Long-Term Returns
Sat Jan 24 2026
Dividend Growth: The Quiet Engine of Wealth
Dividend growth investing sounds simple, but doing it well for decades is not. Markets get noisy. Numbers get confusing. That’s why we wrote Dividend Growth: The Quiet Engine of Wealth—a practical guide to building a framework you can stick with when things get uncomfortable. You can get a free copy here.
Plus, join our market newsletter for more on dividend growth investing.
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If you could only look at one number to judge whether a dividend can keep growing for decades, what would it be?
In this episode, we strip investing back to first principles. Greg talks about why investors get overwhelmed with data and how focusing on the wrong metrics can quietly lead you off track. Using a simple hot dog stand analogy, he explains why familiar numbers like return on equity (ROE) and return on assets (ROA) can distort reality, especially when leverage enters the picture.
From there, he introduces return on invested capital (ROIC) and shows why it does a better job connecting business quality to long-term dividend growth. Later, Greg addresses what ROIC can’t tell you and why context always matters.
Along the way, he walks through real-world examples, including Kraft Heinz ($KHC), Southern Company ($SO), Williams-Sonoma ($WSM), and Microsoft ($MSFT), to show how capital allocation decisions compound over time.
[00:11] Introduction
[02:50] Information overload and the danger of focusing on the wrong numbers
[04:40] The hot dog stand: ROA vs. ROE and the role of leverage
[08:15] Why both ROA and ROE can mislead dividend investors
[09:35] Return on invested capital (ROIC) explained in plain English
[13:30] ROIC, cost of capital, and long-term value creation
[14:55] Case study: Kraft Heinz and why high yield can be a trap
[18:30] Case study: Southern Company and when low returns still “work”
[22:10] Case study: Williams-Sonoma and disciplined capital allocation
[24:55] Case study: Microsoft and the power of long-term compounding
[29:10] The limits of ROIC and why incremental returns matter
[31:25] Final takeaway: one number, long time horizons, evolving businesses
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Disclaimer: Past performance does not guarantee future results. This episode is for educational purposes only and is not investment advice.
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Dividend Growth: The Quiet Engine of Wealth Dividend growth investing sounds simple, but doing it well for decades is not. Markets get noisy. Numbers get confusing. That’s why we wrote Dividend Growth: The Quiet Engine of Wealth—a practical guide to building a framework you can stick with when things get uncomfortable. You can get a free copy here. Plus, join our market newsletter for more on dividend growth investing. ________ If you could only look at one number to judge whether a dividend can keep growing for decades, what would it be? In this episode, we strip investing back to first principles. Greg talks about why investors get overwhelmed with data and how focusing on the wrong metrics can quietly lead you off track. Using a simple hot dog stand analogy, he explains why familiar numbers like return on equity (ROE) and return on assets (ROA) can distort reality, especially when leverage enters the picture. From there, he introduces return on invested capital (ROIC) and shows why it does a better job connecting business quality to long-term dividend growth. Later, Greg addresses what ROIC can’t tell you and why context always matters. Along the way, he walks through real-world examples, including Kraft Heinz ($KHC), Southern Company ($SO), Williams-Sonoma ($WSM), and Microsoft ($MSFT), to show how capital allocation decisions compound over time. [00:11] Introduction [02:50] Information overload and the danger of focusing on the wrong numbers [04:40] The hot dog stand: ROA vs. ROE and the role of leverage [08:15] Why both ROA and ROE can mislead dividend investors [09:35] Return on invested capital (ROIC) explained in plain English [13:30] ROIC, cost of capital, and long-term value creation [14:55] Case study: Kraft Heinz and why high yield can be a trap [18:30] Case study: Southern Company and when low returns still “work” [22:10] Case study: Williams-Sonoma and disciplined capital allocation [24:55] Case study: Microsoft and the power of long-term compounding [29:10] The limits of ROIC and why incremental returns matter [31:25] Final takeaway: one number, long time horizons, evolving businesses Send us a text Disclaimer: Past performance does not guarantee future results. This episode is for educational purposes only and is not investment advice. If you enjoy the show, we'd greatly appreciate it if you subscribe and leave a review RESOURCES: Schedule a meeting with us -> Financial Planning & Portfolio Management Getting into the weeds -> DCM Investment Reports & Models Visit our website to learn more about our investment strategy and wealth management services. Follow us on: Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn | X