#32 - Anita Verma Lallian - Data Centres, AI, Biggest Land Deal In The History Of Arizona
Mon Jan 12 2026
Anita Verma-Lallian is an American real estate developer, entrepreneur, and film producer known for her role shaping large-scale land deals and pioneering development in Arizona. She is the founder and CEO of Arizona Land Consulting, a firm that advises investors and developers on acquiring and developing strategic land assets across the state. Verma-Lallian comes from a family with deep roots in Arizona real estate and has built her own reputation by leading major transactions, including significant land acquisitions tied to the burgeoning AI data center industry. Her work in this sector has attracted capital from high-profile tech investors, and she’s been involved in multi-million-dollar deals that position Arizona as a growing hub for infrastructure projects and commercial development. In addition to real estate, she founded Camelback Productions, a film production company focused on diverse storytelling, and has plans to build a movie studio complex in Arizona.00:00 – Why AI data centers are the new “gold”00:38 – Anita’s background and Arizona land roots02:35 – The $40M to $1.5B Arizona land flip04:35 – Why Arizona is becoming a top data center market06:20 – Why California struggles to compete for data centers08:20 – How Anita analyzes a land parcel for data centers11:15 – Team, power engineering, and working with hyperscalers14:05 – Local opposition vs economic upside of data centers17:10 – AI boom, power constraints, and China’s lead20:00 – Growing up in a real estate family and early hustle24:40 – Lessons from her dad: market knowledge and taking big risks28:50 – Why she stayed in Arizona and skips California deals32:20 – From land to movies: why Anita launched Camelback Productions36:40 – How streaming changed Hollywood economics for investors40:50 – The rise of Indian audiences and Bollywood–Hollywood crossover43:35 – Genres Anita loves and her content thesis (rom‑coms, feel‑good films)47:10 – Streaming churn, ad‑supported models, and movie profitability51:50 – How investors can play the AI boom: stocks, land, and AI tools55:45 – Why Anita raises per‑project instead of a fund; government incentives59:40 – Global outlook: India, demographics, and AI lag1:03:30 – Career advice for young people entering real estate and AI infrastructure1:07:00 – Why Indians over‑index on income: parenting, work ethic, and scrappiness1:11:20 – How Anita’s team actually uses AI day‑to‑day in the business1:15:10 – Finding off‑market land in a huge state like Arizona1:18:20 – How to invest with Arizona Land Consulting and watch Camelback’s films1:21:40 – Upcoming films with Owen Wilson and Russell Crowe; film studio plansBio:Instagram: / manavpod Tiktok: / manavpod X: https://x.com/manavpodLinkedin: / manavgolecha Website: https://www.manavgolecha.com/All my links: linktr.ee/manavpod
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Anita Verma-Lallian is an American real estate developer, entrepreneur, and film producer known for her role shaping large-scale land deals and pioneering development in Arizona. She is the founder and CEO of Arizona Land Consulting, a firm that advises investors and developers on acquiring and developing strategic land assets across the state. Verma-Lallian comes from a family with deep roots in Arizona real estate and has built her own reputation by leading major transactions, including significant land acquisitions tied to the burgeoning AI data center industry. Her work in this sector has attracted capital from high-profile tech investors, and she’s been involved in multi-million-dollar deals that position Arizona as a growing hub for infrastructure projects and commercial development. In addition to real estate, she founded Camelback Productions, a film production company focused on diverse storytelling, and has plans to build a movie studio complex in Arizona.00:00 – Why AI data centers are the new “gold”00:38 – Anita’s background and Arizona land roots02:35 – The $40M to $1.5B Arizona land flip04:35 – Why Arizona is becoming a top data center market06:20 – Why California struggles to compete for data centers08:20 – How Anita analyzes a land parcel for data centers11:15 – Team, power engineering, and working with hyperscalers14:05 – Local opposition vs economic upside of data centers17:10 – AI boom, power constraints, and China’s lead20:00 – Growing up in a real estate family and early hustle24:40 – Lessons from her dad: market knowledge and taking big risks28:50 – Why she stayed in Arizona and skips California deals32:20 – From land to movies: why Anita launched Camelback Productions36:40 – How streaming changed Hollywood economics for investors40:50 – The rise of Indian audiences and Bollywood–Hollywood crossover43:35 – Genres Anita loves and her content thesis (rom‑coms, feel‑good films)47:10 – Streaming churn, ad‑supported models, and movie profitability51:50 – How investors can play the AI boom: stocks, land, and AI tools55:45 – Why Anita raises per‑project instead of a fund; government incentives59:40 – Global outlook: India, demographics, and AI lag1:03:30 – Career advice for young people entering real estate and AI infrastructure1:07:00 – Why Indians over‑index on income: parenting, work ethic, and scrappiness1:11:20 – How Anita’s team actually uses AI day‑to‑day in the business1:15:10 – Finding off‑market land in a huge state like Arizona1:18:20 – How to invest with Arizona Land Consulting and watch Camelback’s films1:21:40 – Upcoming films with Owen Wilson and Russell Crowe; film studio plansBio:Instagram: / manavpod Tiktok: / manavpod X: https://x.com/manavpodLinkedin: / manavgolecha Website: https://www.manavgolecha.com/All my links: linktr.ee/manavpod