Liquidity, Dubai, and the Real Path to Tokenized Real Estate
Wed Jan 28 2026
Liquidity, Dubai, and the Real Path to Tokenized Real Estate
Guest: Vlad Khrypun, TON Foundation & Founder of Arvo
In crypto, volatility often dominates headlines—but what's behind it? Vlad Khrypun (TON Foundation, Arvo) joins us to unpack the real drivers behind crypto's recent swings, explain why Dubai has emerged as the go-to sandbox for real-world asset (RWA) experimentation, and share how Arvo is turning real estate into fractional investments starting from just $100.
Vlad offers rare clarity on why he believes true tokenization will reshape real estate: from faster, transparent mortgages that settle in minutes instead of months, to entirely new ways properties get priced, financed, and owned. He also shares personal insights from navigating crypto’s booms and busts, emphasizing why staying power in the industry might be the best strategy of all.
Key takeaways from this episode:
Crypto volatility is often about liquidity moving between markets—like the current rotation into AI stocks—not underlying fundamentals.
Surviving crypto cycles reshapes your investment approach, pushing you towards longer-term thinking.
Dubai's practical regulatory environment is providing a real-world launchpad for tokenizing property assets, ahead of traditional financial hubs like London.
Arvo's model starts simply with fractional property investing but aims for tokenized title deeds and mortgages completed in minutes, changing how real estate works forever.
Tokenization isn't just about access—it's fundamentally reshaping price discovery, liquidity, and market structure.
Smart contracts introduce a trade-off: you replace human discretion with code, gaining transparency but also new risks.
On-chain finance will eventually support automated, machine-to-machine transactions, bypassing traditional payment rails designed solely for human users.
Episode chapters:
(00:00) Introduction: Vlad Khrypun, TON, and Arvo(00:33) What's driving crypto volatility now?(04:02) Lessons from crypto's market cycles(09:29) How compounding shapes careers and relationships(13:40) From TON accelerator to launching Arvo(16:16) Why Dubai? The new crypto-friendly hub(20:12) How Arvo enables fractional real estate investing(21:51) Tokenizing property titles: How close are we?(26:51) Why tokenization changes real estate pricing and liquidity(29:48) Rethinking mortgages: Settlement in minutes, not months(34:12) Trusting code vs. humans: The governance dilemma(40:20) The rise of machine-to-machine payments on-chain(46:49) Crypto's next 5–10 years: Institutions, values, regulation(51:32) Vlad's advice for navigating crypto careers(53:47) Dream podcast guests: Jobs, Satoshi, Abloh, Naval
People and projects mentioned:
https://ton.org/en
https://www.arvo.co/
Memorable quotes:
“If you wouldn’t hold the stock for five years, approach crypto investment in a similar way.”
“Code doesn’t lie—code is law.”
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Liquidity, Dubai, and the Real Path to Tokenized Real Estate Guest: Vlad Khrypun, TON Foundation & Founder of Arvo In crypto, volatility often dominates headlines—but what's behind it? Vlad Khrypun (TON Foundation, Arvo) joins us to unpack the real drivers behind crypto's recent swings, explain why Dubai has emerged as the go-to sandbox for real-world asset (RWA) experimentation, and share how Arvo is turning real estate into fractional investments starting from just $100. Vlad offers rare clarity on why he believes true tokenization will reshape real estate: from faster, transparent mortgages that settle in minutes instead of months, to entirely new ways properties get priced, financed, and owned. He also shares personal insights from navigating crypto’s booms and busts, emphasizing why staying power in the industry might be the best strategy of all. Key takeaways from this episode: Crypto volatility is often about liquidity moving between markets—like the current rotation into AI stocks—not underlying fundamentals. Surviving crypto cycles reshapes your investment approach, pushing you towards longer-term thinking. Dubai's practical regulatory environment is providing a real-world launchpad for tokenizing property assets, ahead of traditional financial hubs like London. Arvo's model starts simply with fractional property investing but aims for tokenized title deeds and mortgages completed in minutes, changing how real estate works forever. Tokenization isn't just about access—it's fundamentally reshaping price discovery, liquidity, and market structure. Smart contracts introduce a trade-off: you replace human discretion with code, gaining transparency but also new risks. On-chain finance will eventually support automated, machine-to-machine transactions, bypassing traditional payment rails designed solely for human users. Episode chapters: (00:00) Introduction: Vlad Khrypun, TON, and Arvo(00:33) What's driving crypto volatility now?(04:02) Lessons from crypto's market cycles(09:29) How compounding shapes careers and relationships(13:40) From TON accelerator to launching Arvo(16:16) Why Dubai? The new crypto-friendly hub(20:12) How Arvo enables fractional real estate investing(21:51) Tokenizing property titles: How close are we?(26:51) Why tokenization changes real estate pricing and liquidity(29:48) Rethinking mortgages: Settlement in minutes, not months(34:12) Trusting code vs. humans: The governance dilemma(40:20) The rise of machine-to-machine payments on-chain(46:49) Crypto's next 5–10 years: Institutions, values, regulation(51:32) Vlad's advice for navigating crypto careers(53:47) Dream podcast guests: Jobs, Satoshi, Abloh, Naval People and projects mentioned: https://ton.org/en https://www.arvo.co/ Memorable quotes: “If you wouldn’t hold the stock for five years, approach crypto investment in a similar way.” “Code doesn’t lie—code is law.”