ABM isn’t broken. Expectations are. with Lauren Daly and Andrew Shepherd, Palo Alto Networks
Thu Jan 15 2026
ABM is still spoken about as a silver bullet. A way to open doors, personalise at scale and finally align sales and marketing. The problem is that most organisations expect it to behave like magic rather than work.
In this conversation, Benedict speaks with Lauren Daly and Andrew Shepherd from Palo Alto Networks about where ABM breaks down in reality. Drawing on experience running ABM in a large, complex organisation, they unpack the gap between how ABM is sold internally and what it actually demands operationally, culturally and commercially.
Rather than treating ABM as a tactic, the discussion reframes it as a privilege that requires clarity on account selection, shared ownership of outcomes and a willingness to confront uncomfortable trade-offs. From data fragmentation and misaligned incentives to the limits of personalisation at scale, the episode is clear-eyed about what works and what does not.
This is not a conversation about tooling or frameworks. It is about discipline, expectation-setting and why good ABM often looks a lot like good marketing done properly.
00:01:20 Why ABM is sold as a silver bullet
00:03:50 The biggest misconceptions sales teams have about ABM
00:06:55 Why ‘account’ thinking misses buying groups
00:11:00 Account selection as the real point of alignment
00:17:45 The data problem no martech stack fully solves
00:24:50 When ABM just becomes good marketing
00:33:10 Personalisation, AI and cultural readiness
00:41:10 Why incentives, not intent, cause misalignment
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ABM is still spoken about as a silver bullet. A way to open doors, personalise at scale and finally align sales and marketing. The problem is that most organisations expect it to behave like magic rather than work. In this conversation, Benedict speaks with Lauren Daly and Andrew Shepherd from Palo Alto Networks about where ABM breaks down in reality. Drawing on experience running ABM in a large, complex organisation, they unpack the gap between how ABM is sold internally and what it actually demands operationally, culturally and commercially. Rather than treating ABM as a tactic, the discussion reframes it as a privilege that requires clarity on account selection, shared ownership of outcomes and a willingness to confront uncomfortable trade-offs. From data fragmentation and misaligned incentives to the limits of personalisation at scale, the episode is clear-eyed about what works and what does not. This is not a conversation about tooling or frameworks. It is about discipline, expectation-setting and why good ABM often looks a lot like good marketing done properly. 00:01:20 Why ABM is sold as a silver bullet 00:03:50 The biggest misconceptions sales teams have about ABM 00:06:55 Why ‘account’ thinking misses buying groups 00:11:00 Account selection as the real point of alignment 00:17:45 The data problem no martech stack fully solves 00:24:50 When ABM just becomes good marketing 00:33:10 Personalisation, AI and cultural readiness 00:41:10 Why incentives, not intent, cause misalignment Learn more about alan. here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.