Data Driven

In this episode of Data Driven, Frank and Andy dive into the future of market intelligence with Dr. Jill Axline, co-founder and CEO of Mavera—a company building synthetic populations that simulate real human behaviour, cognition, and emotion. Forget Personas. We're talking real-time, AI-driven behavioural modeling that's more predictive than your horoscope and considerably more data-backed. Dr. Axline shares how Mavera’s swarm of AI models situates these synthetic humans within real-world business contexts to forecast decisions, measure emotional resonance, and even test marketing messages before they go live. From governance and model drift to the surprising uses in financial services, political campaigns, and speechwriting—this is one of the most forward-looking conversations we’ve had yet. If you've ever wanted a deeper understanding of how AI can augment decision-making—or just want to hear Frank admit asset managers love ice cream—this one’s for you. LinksLearn more about Mavera:https://mavera.ioConnect with Jill Axline on LinkedIn:https://linkedin.com/in/jillaxlineMorningstar:https://www.morningstar.com Time Stamps00:00 - Introduction & AI Swarms Explained 03:30 - Forget Personas: Contextual AI Models 07:00 - Evidence vs Inference & AI Governance 10:20 - Simulation Scenarios & Model Drift 14:30 - Synthetic Audiences in Action 18:00 - Evidence Feedback Loops & Small Data Challenges 22:00 - Industry Applications & Use Cases 27:00 - Analyzing Speeches & Emotional Resonance 30:45 - Sentiment, Social Listening, and Real-Time News Reactions 34:00 - Adversarial Models & Strategic Pushback 38:00 - The Cartoon Bank Portal That Failed Spectacularly 41:00 - From Skeptic to CEO: Jill’s Journey 45:00 - Data Privacy, Compliance & Synthetic Ethics 48:00 - Reflections on Empathy, Engineers, and Selling Without Selling Support the ShowIf you enjoy Data Driven, leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or your favourite pod platform. It helps more people find the show—and fuels Frank’s Monster Energy habit.