S1:E16 - UFOs, Energy, and the Future of Sustainability
Thu Dec 18 2025
We’ve talked about some strange topics this year on House of Life and occasionally the topic of aliens rears its head. This week we decided to tackle it head on and ask: what do UFOs and potential alien disclosure have to do with sustainability? The answer, it turns out, might be everything — if, that is, the key to a sustainable future lies in energy.
You might immediately dismiss any discussion of UFO’s (or UAP), but we start this discussion from the fact that there have been a number of US congressional hearings on the topic, a new bill going through congress called the ‘Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act of 2025’ and a growing number of government officials speaking publicly about the subject, notably in the recent documentary The Age of Disclosure. If we’re serious about exploring the depths of sustainability then, this is a topic that we need to explore with open minds, even if it is still speculative at this time.
In particular we consider what advanced propulsion systems might reveal about alternative energy sources such as zero-point energy — a potentially unlimited, clean energy source. We discuss how access to energy is fundamental to human civilisation, with Asim referencing economist Steve Keen’s thesis that energy, not GDP, is the real currency of the world — explaining wars, politics, and quality of life.
We ask whether breakthrough energy technology could revolutionise sustainability: from cleaning up pollution and restoring ecosystems to eliminating resource conflicts. Tom suggests that if we could harness “creative” rather than “destructive” energy — organising matter instead of blowing it up — it could solve problems the environmental movement has struggled with for decades.
And then there is the question of suppression. If such an energy technology was possible, would the multi-trillion dollar fossil fuel industry, or even the nuclear and renewable industries, allow it to make them obsolete? We dig into this question.
Finally, we discuss the question of whether UFO disclosure would actually change anything. Would humanity actually care if aliens were confirmed, or would just become another TikTok meme? Would unlimited access to energy change how countries behave and eliminate wars over resources? Or would the same dysfunctional behaviours continue to play out? Tom highlights physicist Hal Puthoff’s suggestion that contact might teach us “what it means to be human” in ways more profound than any technological advancement, but Asim isn’t convinced.
If you’re curious, have a listen and leave us a comment to let us know what you think about the potential of this topic to expand our thinking on sustainability and human progress.
And if you enjoy it, we’d be grateful if you like and share it on your preferred platform. Thanks!
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We’ve talked about some strange topics this year on House of Life and occasionally the topic of aliens rears its head. This week we decided to tackle it head on and ask: what do UFOs and potential alien disclosure have to do with sustainability? The answer, it turns out, might be everything — if, that is, the key to a sustainable future lies in energy. You might immediately dismiss any discussion of UFO’s (or UAP), but we start this discussion from the fact that there have been a number of US congressional hearings on the topic, a new bill going through congress called the ‘Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act of 2025’ and a growing number of government officials speaking publicly about the subject, notably in the recent documentary The Age of Disclosure. If we’re serious about exploring the depths of sustainability then, this is a topic that we need to explore with open minds, even if it is still speculative at this time. In particular we consider what advanced propulsion systems might reveal about alternative energy sources such as zero-point energy — a potentially unlimited, clean energy source. We discuss how access to energy is fundamental to human civilisation, with Asim referencing economist Steve Keen’s thesis that energy, not GDP, is the real currency of the world — explaining wars, politics, and quality of life. We ask whether breakthrough energy technology could revolutionise sustainability: from cleaning up pollution and restoring ecosystems to eliminating resource conflicts. Tom suggests that if we could harness “creative” rather than “destructive” energy — organising matter instead of blowing it up — it could solve problems the environmental movement has struggled with for decades. And then there is the question of suppression. If such an energy technology was possible, would the multi-trillion dollar fossil fuel industry, or even the nuclear and renewable industries, allow it to make them obsolete? We dig into this question. Finally, we discuss the question of whether UFO disclosure would actually change anything. Would humanity actually care if aliens were confirmed, or would just become another TikTok meme? Would unlimited access to energy change how countries behave and eliminate wars over resources? Or would the same dysfunctional behaviours continue to play out? Tom highlights physicist Hal Puthoff’s suggestion that contact might teach us “what it means to be human” in ways more profound than any technological advancement, but Asim isn’t convinced. If you’re curious, have a listen and leave us a comment to let us know what you think about the potential of this topic to expand our thinking on sustainability and human progress. And if you enjoy it, we’d be grateful if you like and share it on your preferred platform. Thanks! Thanks for listening to House of Life! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and podcast episodes. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit holpod.com