How Randy Griffin Thinks About Fear vs Faith for Leading With Peace
Wed Feb 04 2026
What if the biggest threat to your leadership isn’t your strategy — but your need for control? In this episode of How Leaders Think, Kenny Lange talks with Randy Griffin, Chair at C12 North Texas, about the two “operating systems” leaders live from: fear and faith. They unpack why high-achieving Christian leaders can get results while quietly losing margin, peace, and joy — and how Jesus invites us into partnership, surrender, and formation instead of performance. If you’ve been trying to “optimize” your way to peace, this conversation will reframe what healthy, kingdom-minded leadership actually looks like.
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Randy Griffin Resources:Website: https://c12northtexas.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/texasfaith/
Chapters:00:00 - The question you’re avoiding
00:45 - Welcome & Randy’s background
02:00 - Leaders are tired: no margin in soul
03:30 - “Optimize more” vs true rest
04:35 - Matthew 11: Jesus’ yoke & rest
07:30 - Two operating systems: fear vs faith
09:45 - Holy productivity vs burnout
12:00 - Loving work without losing your soul
14:15 - Moving from 1.0 to a new OS
17:25 - Recovery & control as addiction
20:10 - “Just enough” is the lie
22:00 - People are God’s highest value
27:15 - Leadership as formation
31:10 - Why success can block surrender
35:45 - 24-hour step: name it & share it
40:15 - How to connect with Randy
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What if the biggest threat to your leadership isn’t your strategy — but your need for control? In this episode of How Leaders Think, Kenny Lange talks with Randy Griffin, Chair at C12 North Texas, about the two “operating systems” leaders live from: fear and faith. They unpack why high-achieving Christian leaders can get results while quietly losing margin, peace, and joy — and how Jesus invites us into partnership, surrender, and formation instead of performance. If you’ve been trying to “optimize” your way to peace, this conversation will reframe what healthy, kingdom-minded leadership actually looks like. Listen on Other Platforms:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-leaders-think-with-kenny-lange/id1434737807 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2wKtzb6KaF1vNlG9TsZkzh Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL2tlZXAtcmlzaW5nLXdpdGgta2VubnktbGFuZ2U= Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b13c5d64-50db-4626-9685-c356116ec54b YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KennyLange/podcasts Website: https://howleadersthink.kennylange.com/ Randy Griffin Resources:Website: https://c12northtexas.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/texasfaith/ Chapters:00:00 - The question you’re avoiding 00:45 - Welcome & Randy’s background 02:00 - Leaders are tired: no margin in soul 03:30 - “Optimize more” vs true rest 04:35 - Matthew 11: Jesus’ yoke & rest 07:30 - Two operating systems: fear vs faith 09:45 - Holy productivity vs burnout 12:00 - Loving work without losing your soul 14:15 - Moving from 1.0 to a new OS 17:25 - Recovery & control as addiction 20:10 - “Just enough” is the lie 22:00 - People are God’s highest value 27:15 - Leadership as formation 31:10 - Why success can block surrender 35:45 - 24-hour step: name it & share it 40:15 - How to connect with Randy Hashtags:#HowLeadersThink #ChristianLeadership #FaithAtWork #LeadershipDevelopment