From Blue Links To AI Overviews: How Brands Stay Discoverable with Bryan Phelps
Wed Jan 28 2026
The search box looks familiar, but the rules underneath are changing fast. We invited Bryan Phelps, CEO of Big Leap, to unpack what actually moves the needle as AI overviews, LLM assistants, and shifting user habits reshape discovery. Brian brings two decades of perspective, from early WordPress experiments to brand-led performance systems for national and growth-stage companies, and he explains why the core pillars of SEO—technical health, intent-true content, and real popularity—still determine whether you’re found and remembered.
We dig into the data behind the headlines: Google’s enduring dominance, how AI summaries siphon long-tail clicks, and why audience research should guide your channel mix. Brian shares a clear content strategy for 2025—build assets that matter beyond search alone, inject firsthand expertise and data, and treat AI mentions as influence rather than last-click conversions. We explore multi-location SEO at scale, paid search and paid social that amplify organic momentum, and a simple north star: help buyers recall your brand when the moment to choose finally arrives.
Transparency and trust run through the conversation. Bryan outlines Big Leap’s AI policy—assistive, not autonomous; no sensitive client data in public models; human review for originality and accuracy—and offers practical ways to use AI to speed research, standardize workflows, and improve consistency. We close on an unexpected edge in a synthetic era: face-to-face connection. Events, workshops, and real conversations rebuild credibility and turn awareness into durable relationships.
If you’re rethinking your search strategy for an AI-shaped world, this conversation gives you a grounded roadmap. Subscribe for more candid talks with digital leaders, share this episode with a teammate who owns growth, and leave a quick review to tell us what you want us to tackle next.
This podcast is proudly sponsored by USC Annenberg’s Master of Science in Digital Media Management (MSDMM) program. An online master’s designed to prepare practitioners to understand the evolving media landscape, make data-driven and ethical decisions, and build a more equitable future by leading diverse teams with the technical, artistic, analytical, and production skills needed to create engaging content and technologies for the global marketplace. Learn more or apply today at https://dmm.usc.edu.
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The search box looks familiar, but the rules underneath are changing fast. We invited Bryan Phelps, CEO of Big Leap, to unpack what actually moves the needle as AI overviews, LLM assistants, and shifting user habits reshape discovery. Brian brings two decades of perspective, from early WordPress experiments to brand-led performance systems for national and growth-stage companies, and he explains why the core pillars of SEO—technical health, intent-true content, and real popularity—still determine whether you’re found and remembered. We dig into the data behind the headlines: Google’s enduring dominance, how AI summaries siphon long-tail clicks, and why audience research should guide your channel mix. Brian shares a clear content strategy for 2025—build assets that matter beyond search alone, inject firsthand expertise and data, and treat AI mentions as influence rather than last-click conversions. We explore multi-location SEO at scale, paid search and paid social that amplify organic momentum, and a simple north star: help buyers recall your brand when the moment to choose finally arrives. Transparency and trust run through the conversation. Bryan outlines Big Leap’s AI policy—assistive, not autonomous; no sensitive client data in public models; human review for originality and accuracy—and offers practical ways to use AI to speed research, standardize workflows, and improve consistency. We close on an unexpected edge in a synthetic era: face-to-face connection. Events, workshops, and real conversations rebuild credibility and turn awareness into durable relationships. If you’re rethinking your search strategy for an AI-shaped world, this conversation gives you a grounded roadmap. Subscribe for more candid talks with digital leaders, share this episode with a teammate who owns growth, and leave a quick review to tell us what you want us to tackle next. This podcast is proudly sponsored by USC Annenberg’s Master of Science in Digital Media Management (MSDMM) program. An online master’s designed to prepare practitioners to understand the evolving media landscape, make data-driven and ethical decisions, and build a more equitable future by leading diverse teams with the technical, artistic, analytical, and production skills needed to create engaging content and technologies for the global marketplace. Learn more or apply today at https://dmm.usc.edu.