#78: What Does Sovereignty Really Mean and How to Claim it with Celanie Jones
Tue Feb 03 2026
I welcome my friend Celanie Jones for an honest, intricate conversation about sovereignty and what it actually means, without the catchy buzzwords, and how it’s often distorted in modern motherhood and within spiritual communities. Celanie is a homeschooling mom of two young children and local Weston A. Price chapter leader.
Celanie shares her rocky but redemptive journey through abuse, trauma, pregnancy termination, postpartum psychosis, and her time inside the Free Birth Society, where the language of sovereignty was used ironically to control rather than to encourage autonomy. We unpack how real sovereignty isn’t about rejecting systems blindly but rather listening to your own body without the outside influence of another leader or expert.
This episode explores:
• What sovereignty actually means on a nervous-system level
• How cult dynamics show up in “crunchy” and spiritual motherhood spaces
• The role of trauma in people-pleasing and submission
• Why changing your mind is a powerful act of sovereignty
• How to tell if you’re truly making your own choices
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I welcome my friend Celanie Jones for an honest, intricate conversation about sovereignty and what it actually means, without the catchy buzzwords, and how it’s often distorted in modern motherhood and within spiritual communities. Celanie is a homeschooling mom of two young children and local Weston A. Price chapter leader. Celanie shares her rocky but redemptive journey through abuse, trauma, pregnancy termination, postpartum psychosis, and her time inside the Free Birth Society, where the language of sovereignty was used ironically to control rather than to encourage autonomy. We unpack how real sovereignty isn’t about rejecting systems blindly but rather listening to your own body without the outside influence of another leader or expert. This episode explores: • What sovereignty actually means on a nervous-system level • How cult dynamics show up in “crunchy” and spiritual motherhood spaces • The role of trauma in people-pleasing and submission • Why changing your mind is a powerful act of sovereignty • How to tell if you’re truly making your own choices Please share your feedback within the comments section of Spotify or on instagram. We welcome your respectful discourse! follow Celanie at @bodilywaysofknowing Support the show Stay Connected With Me: JOIN NO-NONSENSE NIGHT TRAINING, my small-group coaching for moms who wants to get their kids out of an overnight pull-up and waking up dry. We go live on Mon Feb 9th! Subscribe to Moms Off The Record on YouTube JOIN THE MOTR PRIVATE COMMUNITY here Book a potty training 1:1 consult with me here Discount codes & links to my favorite courses and products here Love Moms off the Record? You can directly support the show here Thank you for leaving a rating and written review on Apple and Spotify! This is the best, free way to support the podcast. Follow MOTR on instagram here