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People First Leaders

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From Setback to Success – Second Life Leader tells founder stories of rebuilding companies and leading teams through challenge and change I’m Doug Utberg, and this platform is for founders, rebuilders, creatives, and professionals who’ve been knocked down by layoffs, divorce, burnout, or failure—and still refuse to quit. Each episode delivers raw, unsanitized conversations with leaders who’ve walked through fire, rebuilt from nothing, and now lead with clarity, presence, and conviction. We talk: Career reinvention and self-leadership Burnout recovery and nervous system rebuilding Ethical entrepreneurship and post-collapse strategy Using AI and automation to reclaim time and sovereignty This isn’t a show about playing nice. It’s about building something that can’t be taken from you. 📩 Want to go deeper? The podcast sparks the rebuild— But the newsletter is where the real work happens. 🎙 Second Life Leader is where rebuilders, warriors, and sovereigns come to rise after collapse. No hype. No guru scripts. Just real strategies, raw stories, and the clarity you need to rebuild stronger. 👉 Discover your Leader Archetype and get your personalized roadmap: https://leaderqui
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Audience: 4K–8K / month
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Reply rate: 35%+

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Why Failure Is a Feature, Not a Bug—and What Boring Gets Right

Fri Feb 06 2026

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Physician, healthcare entrepreneur, and founder Dr. Vivek Aranki joins me to unpack why most real success is built through failure—and why the willingness to iterate beats chasing innovation for its own sake. Most business conversations treat failure as something to avoid, minimize, or hide. This episode reframes it as a required feedback loop. Vivek and I explore how meaningful progress—especially in regulated, high-stakes industries—comes from repeated trial, error, and disciplined correction. Vivek shares his transition from practicing physician to building one of Australia’s largest non-corporate cosmetic medicine groups, now spanning 20 clinics nationwide and expanding through franchising. We examine how affordability, quality, and safety are often positioned as trade-offs—and how those assumptions break down when systems are designed intentionally. The conversation moves into franchising ethics, brand trust, and why extraction-based models collapse over time. Vivek explains why their organization prioritizes long-term brand credibility over franchise fees, why lead generation must sit centrally in regulated industries, and how franchising only works when incentives are aligned. From there, we widen the lens to healthcare economics, preventative care, food systems, regulation, and why “move fast and break things” is a catastrophic mindset when human health is involved. We contrast tech’s tolerance for failure with healthcare’s need for boring, proven reliability—and why lagging the cutting edge can actually be the strategic advantage. This isn’t a conversation about avoiding risk.It’s about understanding where risk belongs—and where it doesn’t. TL;DR * Failure is a necessary feedback loop, not a personal flaw * Businesses fail when they copy instead of creating real value * In healthcare, innovation without evidence is dangerous—not disruptive * Franchising only works when value flows to franchisees, not out of them * “Boring” systems outperform cutting-edge ones in regulated environments * Affordability, safety, and quality can coexist with disciplined execution * Healthcare costs are driven by bureaucracy more than care delivery * Preventative care has the highest value-to-cost leverage—but the weakest incentives * Sustainable systems must be able to self-correct over time Memorable Lines * “Failure isn’t a setback—it’s a feedback loop.” * “Boring is good when people’s health is on the line.” * “If innovation lacks evidence, it’s not innovation—it’s experimentation.” * “You can’t ‘move fast and break things’ when the thing is a human being.” * “Long-term value dies the moment extraction becomes the strategy.” Guest Dr. Vivek Aranki — Physician, healthcare entrepreneur, and founderFounder of a national cosmetic medicine group with 20 clinics across Australia, specializing in scalable, safety-first healthcare delivery and ethical franchising within highly regulated environments. Why This Matters Modern business culture glorifies disruption without consequence. But in real systems—healthcare, regulation, food, human safety—failure has a cost. Understanding where experimentation belongs and where discipline must prevail is a leadership skill few master. For founders, operators, and executives navigating regulated industries or complex systems, this episode offers a sober counterweight to startup mythology: progress comes from feedback, restraint, and building structures that correct themselves before damage compounds. Success isn’t about avoiding failure.It’s about learning faster—without breaking what matters. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.dougutberg.com

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Physician, healthcare entrepreneur, and founder Dr. Vivek Aranki joins me to unpack why most real success is built through failure—and why the willingness to iterate beats chasing innovation for its own sake. Most business conversations treat failure as something to avoid, minimize, or hide. This episode reframes it as a required feedback loop. Vivek and I explore how meaningful progress—especially in regulated, high-stakes industries—comes from repeated trial, error, and disciplined correction. Vivek shares his transition from practicing physician to building one of Australia’s largest non-corporate cosmetic medicine groups, now spanning 20 clinics nationwide and expanding through franchising. We examine how affordability, quality, and safety are often positioned as trade-offs—and how those assumptions break down when systems are designed intentionally. The conversation moves into franchising ethics, brand trust, and why extraction-based models collapse over time. Vivek explains why their organization prioritizes long-term brand credibility over franchise fees, why lead generation must sit centrally in regulated industries, and how franchising only works when incentives are aligned. From there, we widen the lens to healthcare economics, preventative care, food systems, regulation, and why “move fast and break things” is a catastrophic mindset when human health is involved. We contrast tech’s tolerance for failure with healthcare’s need for boring, proven reliability—and why lagging the cutting edge can actually be the strategic advantage. This isn’t a conversation about avoiding risk.It’s about understanding where risk belongs—and where it doesn’t. TL;DR * Failure is a necessary feedback loop, not a personal flaw * Businesses fail when they copy instead of creating real value * In healthcare, innovation without evidence is dangerous—not disruptive * Franchising only works when value flows to franchisees, not out of them * “Boring” systems outperform cutting-edge ones in regulated environments * Affordability, safety, and quality can coexist with disciplined execution * Healthcare costs are driven by bureaucracy more than care delivery * Preventative care has the highest value-to-cost leverage—but the weakest incentives * Sustainable systems must be able to self-correct over time Memorable Lines * “Failure isn’t a setback—it’s a feedback loop.” * “Boring is good when people’s health is on the line.” * “If innovation lacks evidence, it’s not innovation—it’s experimentation.” * “You can’t ‘move fast and break things’ when the thing is a human being.” * “Long-term value dies the moment extraction becomes the strategy.” Guest Dr. Vivek Aranki — Physician, healthcare entrepreneur, and founderFounder of a national cosmetic medicine group with 20 clinics across Australia, specializing in scalable, safety-first healthcare delivery and ethical franchising within highly regulated environments. Why This Matters Modern business culture glorifies disruption without consequence. But in real systems—healthcare, regulation, food, human safety—failure has a cost. Understanding where experimentation belongs and where discipline must prevail is a leadership skill few master. For founders, operators, and executives navigating regulated industries or complex systems, this episode offers a sober counterweight to startup mythology: progress comes from feedback, restraint, and building structures that correct themselves before damage compounds. Success isn’t about avoiding failure.It’s about learning faster—without breaking what matters. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.dougutberg.com

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#1212
Top 2.4% by pitch volume (Rank #1212 of 50,000)
Average rating
4.9
From 125 ratings
Reviews
22
Written reviews (when available)
Publish cadence
Weekly
Active weekly
Episode count
376
Data updated
Feb 10, 2026
Social followers
1.1K

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Country
United States
Language
English
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Latest episode date
Fri Feb 06 2026

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4K–8K / month
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From Setback to Success – Second Life Leader tells founder stories of rebuilding companies and leading teams through challenge and change I’m Doug Utberg, and this platform is for founders, rebuilders, creatives, and professionals who’ve been knocked down by layoffs, divorce, burnout, or failure—and still refuse to quit. Each episode delivers raw, unsanitized conversations with leaders who’ve walked through fire, rebuilt from nothing, and now lead with clarity, presence, and conviction. We talk: Career reinvention and self-leadership Burnout recovery and nervous system rebuilding Ethical entrepreneurship and post-collapse strategy Using AI and automation to reclaim time and sovereignty This isn’t a show about playing nice. It’s about building something that can’t be taken from you. 📩 Want to go deeper? The podcast sparks the rebuild— But the newsletter is where the real work happens. 🎙 Second Life Leader is where rebuilders, warriors, and sovereigns come to rise after collapse. No hype. No guru scripts. Just real strategies, raw stories, and the clarity you need to rebuild stronger. 👉 Discover your Leader Archetype and get your personalized roadmap: https://leaderqui

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