237. Bringing 'two beer' Energy to a Sober Life with Louis Church
Fri Feb 06 2026
“Six hours of fun would cost me four days of anxiety afterwards.”
In episode 237 of The Alcohol ReThink Podcast, Patrick is joined by Louis Church, co-founder of High and Dry Beer, for one of those conversations that goes way beyond drinking or not drinking.
They talk about alcohol-free beer, mushrooms, running, and how on earth you even go about building a non-alcoholic lager that actually tastes good.
And then, pretty quickly, the conversation goes somewhere much deeper.
Louis shares his honest relationship with alcohol, what binge drinking looked like for him, and why stepping away from drinking forced him to face thoughts and emotions he’d spent years avoiding.
They explore the uncomfortable middle of sobriety. The bit no one really prepares you for. When the initial motivation fades, you’re faced with your own mind.
Awesome things you'll hear about:
Why stopping drinking can feel amazing at first… and then suddenly feel hard
Grieving alcohol instead of pretending you don’t miss it
Social pressure, people-pleasing, and drinking for other people’s comfort
The myth that you lose your personality without alcohol
Learning you don’t need alcohol to be confident, funny, or connected
Therapy, journaling, and sitting with uncomfortable feelings instead of escaping them
Responsibility, values, and choosing the man you actually want to be
They also talk about the creation of High and Dry Beer, how the idea was born during marathon training, why it’s brewed properly rather than sweetened and watered down, and why Louis cares more about presence and meaning than telling anyone what they should do.
This isn’t a quit-forever episode, it’s not preachy, and it’s definitely not anti-fun.
It’s a real conversation about identity, choice, maturity, and what opens up when you start choosing yourself over alcohol.
Connect with Louis
Instagram: High & Dry Beer
Website: High & Dry Beer - Functional Lager
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Instagram: @thealcoholrethinkpodcast
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“Six hours of fun would cost me four days of anxiety afterwards.” In episode 237 of The Alcohol ReThink Podcast, Patrick is joined by Louis Church, co-founder of High and Dry Beer, for one of those conversations that goes way beyond drinking or not drinking. They talk about alcohol-free beer, mushrooms, running, and how on earth you even go about building a non-alcoholic lager that actually tastes good. And then, pretty quickly, the conversation goes somewhere much deeper. Louis shares his honest relationship with alcohol, what binge drinking looked like for him, and why stepping away from drinking forced him to face thoughts and emotions he’d spent years avoiding. They explore the uncomfortable middle of sobriety. The bit no one really prepares you for. When the initial motivation fades, you’re faced with your own mind. Awesome things you'll hear about: Why stopping drinking can feel amazing at first… and then suddenly feel hard Grieving alcohol instead of pretending you don’t miss it Social pressure, people-pleasing, and drinking for other people’s comfort The myth that you lose your personality without alcohol Learning you don’t need alcohol to be confident, funny, or connected Therapy, journaling, and sitting with uncomfortable feelings instead of escaping them Responsibility, values, and choosing the man you actually want to be They also talk about the creation of High and Dry Beer, how the idea was born during marathon training, why it’s brewed properly rather than sweetened and watered down, and why Louis cares more about presence and meaning than telling anyone what they should do. This isn’t a quit-forever episode, it’s not preachy, and it’s definitely not anti-fun. It’s a real conversation about identity, choice, maturity, and what opens up when you start choosing yourself over alcohol. Connect with Louis Instagram: High & Dry Beer Website: High & Dry Beer - Functional Lager Disrupt Your Life Register Interest here: https://www.patrickjfox.com/disrupt-case-study Work with Patrick: Discover how coaching can support your goals in rethinking alcohol. 👉 Apply here Connect with Patrick: Website: patrickjfox.com Instagram: @thealcoholrethinkpodcast Want to stop drinking but not ready for coaching? Start Here: The Alcohol Mindset Reset Challenge: Transform your relationship with alcohol in 30 days with this free email series. Build sober wins and feel proud of yourself along the way. 👉 Join the challenge here Support the Podcast If you love the podcast and want to show your support in helping it continue, you can buy Patrick a coffee here: https://buymeacoffee.com/patrickfox