OpenClaw and Building Fake Apps
Fri Feb 06 2026
Come meet the crew of AI agents Brian has working for him, Justin's building fake apps to experiment and find out what he wants for real apps, and why don't we feel like we can relax now that we're doing ok?
Timestamps:
(00:45) - What we're talking about this episode
(03:14) - Brian's OpenClaw setup
(11:57) - The cost of token usage with OpenClaw
(17:32) - What makes the memory better in OpenClaw?
(22:38) - What about Cowork?
(25:21) - Working with multiple agents in OpenClaw
(27:07) - The problem of Siri
(29:25) - The challenges of working is the same across AI or hiring
(31:28) - The importance of thinking of AI as an employee
(35:03) - What you'll miss by using AI instead of hiring a human
(44:14) - Why Justin thinks it's important to build fake products
(49:57) - Justin's app to publish a video as a podcast
(53:41) - Building a company to compete with yourself like Freshbooks
(55:39) - How might Transistor change bringing in new features?
(01:04:07) - Design OS updates
(01:09:01) - Why is Brian working all the time and feeling urgency?
(01:16:26) - Marketing for developers in 2026
(01:30:37) - Founder led marketing is key
(01:36:27) - Where are the real products being built with AI? Is AI actually speeding me up?
(01:46:31) - Do I need to make as much money as possible now?
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Links mentioned in this episode:
OpenClaw (Clawdbot)Brian’s crew of AI agents that live on his Mac MiniOpenClaw popularity on GitHub over timeDemo of Justin’s video hosting appThe story of how Freshbooks created a fake company to launch a new version of their productJustin's interview with Lars Lofgren
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Come meet the crew of AI agents Brian has working for him, Justin's building fake apps to experiment and find out what he wants for real apps, and why don't we feel like we can relax now that we're doing ok? Timestamps: (00:45) - What we're talking about this episode (03:14) - Brian's OpenClaw setup (11:57) - The cost of token usage with OpenClaw (17:32) - What makes the memory better in OpenClaw? (22:38) - What about Cowork? (25:21) - Working with multiple agents in OpenClaw (27:07) - The problem of Siri (29:25) - The challenges of working is the same across AI or hiring (31:28) - The importance of thinking of AI as an employee (35:03) - What you'll miss by using AI instead of hiring a human (44:14) - Why Justin thinks it's important to build fake products (49:57) - Justin's app to publish a video as a podcast (53:41) - Building a company to compete with yourself like Freshbooks (55:39) - How might Transistor change bringing in new features? (01:04:07) - Design OS updates (01:09:01) - Why is Brian working all the time and feeling urgency? (01:16:26) - Marketing for developers in 2026 (01:30:37) - Founder led marketing is key (01:36:27) - Where are the real products being built with AI? Is AI actually speeding me up? (01:46:31) - Do I need to make as much money as possible now? YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️🎤 Send us an audio or video message📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode: OpenClaw (Clawdbot)Brian’s crew of AI agents that live on his Mac MiniOpenClaw popularity on GitHub over timeDemo of Justin’s video hosting appThe story of how Freshbooks created a fake company to launch a new version of their productJustin's interview with Lars Lofgren