#125 - EXPERT: The Great Nutrition Reset - Unlocking the New Real Food Pyramid
Thu Feb 05 2026
In this episode, Eric Hörst and nutrition science graduate student Jonathan Hörst discuss the newly updated U.S. dietary guidance and the concept of a "flipped" or re-prioritized food pyramid that emphasizes nutrient density, whole foods, and protein—rather than carbohydrate-heavy intake patterns of past guidelines.
Drawing from current nutrition science and academic discussion at the University of Utah, they explore both the strengths of the update and the practical challenges of applying it.
Key takeaways for climbers and athletes include prioritizing adequate protein, limiting ultra-processed foods, choosing whole-food carbohydrate sources, and matching carbohydrate intake to activity level.
The episode concludes by emphasizing individualized nutrition, performance context, and consistency over perfection. Jonathan also provides some breakfast and dinner tips for climbers looking to optimize energy availability, performance, and recovery.
RUNDOWN
0:30 - Intro to New Food Pyramid
1:00 - About today's expert, Jonathan Hörst, from Department of Nutritional Science at the University of Utah.
2:20 - Seismic changes to the USDA food guideline for Americans
6:00 - Guidelines catching up to modern nutritional science
9:35 - Inverting the old food pyramid
11:40 - 6 major changes to the nutritional guidelines for health and disease prevention
12:00 - #1 Prioritize protein
16:15 - #2: Added Sugar Gets a Hard Line
19:15 - #3: Whole Grains Yes — Refined Carbs No
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21:35 - #4: Lower-Carbohydrate Diets Are Acknowledged
25:35 - #5: Ultra-Processed Foods Are Explicitly Called Out
31:50 - #6: A More Nuanced Approach to Fat Intake
37:30 - Key takeaways & actionable items for climbers
40:00 - Examples of healthy, effective fueling at breakfast and dinner
47:00 - Jonathan's current training and climbing goals
49:40 - Contact Jonathan vis DM on Instagram: @jonathan_horst
49:55 - PLEASE write a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts and SHARE this podcast with a friend!
50:30 - Hörst out!
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Music by Misty Murphy
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Copyright 2026 Eric Hörst | Horst Training, LLC.
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In this episode, Eric Hörst and nutrition science graduate student Jonathan Hörst discuss the newly updated U.S. dietary guidance and the concept of a "flipped" or re-prioritized food pyramid that emphasizes nutrient density, whole foods, and protein—rather than carbohydrate-heavy intake patterns of past guidelines. Drawing from current nutrition science and academic discussion at the University of Utah, they explore both the strengths of the update and the practical challenges of applying it. Key takeaways for climbers and athletes include prioritizing adequate protein, limiting ultra-processed foods, choosing whole-food carbohydrate sources, and matching carbohydrate intake to activity level. The episode concludes by emphasizing individualized nutrition, performance context, and consistency over perfection. Jonathan also provides some breakfast and dinner tips for climbers looking to optimize energy availability, performance, and recovery. RUNDOWN 0:30 - Intro to New Food Pyramid 1:00 - About today's expert, Jonathan Hörst, from Department of Nutritional Science at the University of Utah. 2:20 - Seismic changes to the USDA food guideline for Americans 6:00 - Guidelines catching up to modern nutritional science 9:35 - Inverting the old food pyramid 11:40 - 6 major changes to the nutritional guidelines for health and disease prevention 12:00 - #1 Prioritize protein 16:15 - #2: Added Sugar Gets a Hard Line 19:15 - #3: Whole Grains Yes — Refined Carbs No Brief Podcast Sponsor message from PhysiVantage Nutrition. Save 15% off full-price nutrition with checkout code: PODCAST15 at PhysiVantage.com (USA and Canada only). European climbers, please get your PhysiVantage from the EPIC-TV Shop or Oliunid.com. Mexican climbers visit PhysiVantage.mx 21:35 - #4: Lower-Carbohydrate Diets Are Acknowledged 25:35 - #5: Ultra-Processed Foods Are Explicitly Called Out 31:50 - #6: A More Nuanced Approach to Fat Intake 37:30 - Key takeaways & actionable items for climbers 40:00 - Examples of healthy, effective fueling at breakfast and dinner 47:00 - Jonathan's current training and climbing goals 49:40 - Contact Jonathan vis DM on Instagram: @jonathan_horst 49:55 - PLEASE write a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts and SHARE this podcast with a friend! 50:30 - Hörst out! A word from this podcast's sponsor, PhysiVantage. Get 15% off full-priced nutrition with checkout code: PODCAST15 (North America only). Europe and elsewhere visit EPIC-TV Shop or BananaFingers.com to get your PhysiVantage! SAVE on La Sportiva shoes here >> Thank you! La Sportiva, Maxim Ropes, DMM Climbing, Friction Labs Music by Misty Murphy Follow Eric on Twitter @Train4Climbing Check out Eric's YouTube channel. Follow Eric on Facebook! And on Instagram at: Training4Climbing Copyright 2026 Eric Hörst | Horst Training, LLC.