Lead Without Trying to Lead | Classics with Kathryn Goldman
Sat Feb 07 2026
Some people lead by telling others what to do. Others lead by simply being themselves.
In this Classics episode, I’m joined by copyright + trademark attorney Kathryn Goldman to talk about the classic kids book Madeline.
We explore creative courage + thriving inside structure rather than rebelling against it, and why this maps so cleanly to creative entrepreneurs. We also get practical about intellectual property, including characters, series, parody, fan fiction – you need to know this to protect your work.
Look for more shows in this Classics strand where we take books that are definitely not business books + discuss them as though they are.
Books discussed in this episode:
Madeline - Ludwig Bemelmans
Madeline in London - Ludwig Bemelmans
Madeline's Rescue - Ludwig Bemelmans
Kathryn's website: creativelawcenter.com - lots of free resources available
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If you’d like my help with your Business go to www.lizscully.com/endlessClients
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And don’t forget to get your reading list of the 10 essential reads for every successful biz owner - these are the books Liz recommends almost on the daily to her strategy + Mastermind clients.
This isn’t your usual list of biz books, these answer the challenges you’ve actually got coming up right now. Helpful, quick to read and very timely.
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Some people lead by telling others what to do. Others lead by simply being themselves. In this Classics episode, I’m joined by copyright + trademark attorney Kathryn Goldman to talk about the classic kids book Madeline. We explore creative courage + thriving inside structure rather than rebelling against it, and why this maps so cleanly to creative entrepreneurs. We also get practical about intellectual property, including characters, series, parody, fan fiction – you need to know this to protect your work. Look for more shows in this Classics strand where we take books that are definitely not business books + discuss them as though they are. Books discussed in this episode: Madeline - Ludwig Bemelmans Madeline in London - Ludwig Bemelmans Madeline's Rescue - Ludwig Bemelmans Kathryn's website: creativelawcenter.com - lots of free resources available ==== If you’d like my help with your Business go to www.lizscully.com/endlessClients ==== And don’t forget to get your reading list of the 10 essential reads for every successful biz owner - these are the books Liz recommends almost on the daily to her strategy + Mastermind clients. This isn’t your usual list of biz books, these answer the challenges you’ve actually got coming up right now. Helpful, quick to read and very timely.