106. Are Desires How God Speaks to Us? | Leola on Trust, Devotion, & Divine Redirection
Tue Feb 03 2026
“The longer you stay on the wrong train, the more expensive it is to get home.”
In this episode, I sit down with Leola, tantra teacher, bestselling author, and host of Talk Tantra To Me, for a conversation that gently roasts manifestation culture, flirts with devotion, and asks an interesting question: What if desire is how God speaks to us?
We explore:
- Why your desires are rarely about the thing (sorry)
- How control issues are often just trust wounds in a trench coat
- The difference between egoic craving and soul-level longing
- Why “manifesting harder” might actually be anxiety in lingerie
- How surrender doesn’t mean giving up — it means giving over
- God as lover, leader, and the one who may lovingly wreck your vision board
- Why the body is still the most avoided spiritual teacher in the room
- And what happens when you stop seducing outcomes and start seducing truth...
This episode is for you if..
- You’re tired of forcing things to happen
- You secretly suspect desire isn’t the villain
- Your vision board needs a gentle exorcism
- Or you’re ready to trust something wiser than your ego
It’s deep. It’s funny. It may lovingly call you out.
Listen if you’re ready to stop begging the universe & start having an honest conversation with it.
🎧 Press play. Listen to the whisper...don't wait for the yell.
Timestamps:
01:30 – What’s making Leola feel most alive right now
06:30 – The Three-Minute Game (intimacy exercise)
09:45 – God as a domme + resistance to surrender
13:20 – Finding God in the body
16:00 – Desire vs. egoic craving
19:50 – Becoming a slave to desire
25:40 – Receiving love & nervous system healing
30:15 – Relationship patterns & self-audit
33:50 – When a vision dies, grief, & trust
38:45 – Trusting the nudge
44:30 – Devotion through the tantric lens
50:20 – If God had a dating profile…
Connect with Leola:
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IG: https://www.instagram.com/talktantratome
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“The longer you stay on the wrong train, the more expensive it is to get home.” In this episode, I sit down with Leola, tantra teacher, bestselling author, and host of Talk Tantra To Me, for a conversation that gently roasts manifestation culture, flirts with devotion, and asks an interesting question: What if desire is how God speaks to us? We explore: - Why your desires are rarely about the thing (sorry) - How control issues are often just trust wounds in a trench coat - The difference between egoic craving and soul-level longing - Why “manifesting harder” might actually be anxiety in lingerie - How surrender doesn’t mean giving up — it means giving over - God as lover, leader, and the one who may lovingly wreck your vision board - Why the body is still the most avoided spiritual teacher in the room - And what happens when you stop seducing outcomes and start seducing truth... This episode is for you if.. - You’re tired of forcing things to happen - You secretly suspect desire isn’t the villain - Your vision board needs a gentle exorcism - Or you’re ready to trust something wiser than your ego It’s deep. It’s funny. It may lovingly call you out. Listen if you’re ready to stop begging the universe & start having an honest conversation with it. 🎧 Press play. Listen to the whisper...don't wait for the yell. Timestamps: 01:30 – What’s making Leola feel most alive right now 06:30 – The Three-Minute Game (intimacy exercise) 09:45 – God as a domme + resistance to surrender 13:20 – Finding God in the body 16:00 – Desire vs. egoic craving 19:50 – Becoming a slave to desire 25:40 – Receiving love & nervous system healing 30:15 – Relationship patterns & self-audit 33:50 – When a vision dies, grief, & trust 38:45 – Trusting the nudge 44:30 – Devotion through the tantric lens 50:20 – If God had a dating profile… Connect with Leola: Website: talktantratome.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/talktantratome Support the Pod: $$$ Venmo: @hillbilly-healer PayPal: @KristinBirdwellLLC CashApp: $KristinBirdwell Connect with Kristin: Website - https://www.kristinbirdwell.com/ Instagram - http://instagram.com/kristinbirdwell_ YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@sexdrugssoul For all the peptide goodies, join me on Ellie MD. https://elliemd.com/kristinbirdwell Kristin's Best-Selling Book: Sex, Drugs, & Soul on Amazon Spotify Audiobook Link Subscribe to the Podcast: YouTube Spotify Apple ...